Apr 172013
 

Founder: George Fox, 1643 in Lincolnshire, England.

IN THE RED CORNER: THE QUAKERS: The first Quakers, known as the Valiant Sixty, lived in mid-17th century England. They  broke away from the Church of England.  These Quakers attempted to convert others to their understanding of Christianity, travelling both throughout Great Britain and overseas, preaching the gospel of Jesus Christ. Some of the early Quaker ministers were women.

Quakers are also known as the Society of Friends. (They oppose all types of war-and, in my opinion there is a war on when Gays have to fight for equal rights in marriage)

Quakers  see God in everyone and that leads us to say that all committed loving relationships are of equal worth and so Quakers in Britain wish to celebrate them in the same way.

Paul Parker, recording clerk for Quakers in Britain says: “The day the first same-sex couple can marry in their Quaker meeting will be a wonderful day for marriage, and a great day for religious freedom in Britain. Quakers greet the news we can ‘opt in’ to equal marriage with enthusiasm, but await the details of how this will work in practice.”

He explains: “Quakers see God in everyone and so we would say that all committed relationships are of equal worth. The new regulations (from December 2011) allow civil partnerships in Quaker Meeting houses in England and Wales, but that is not a marriage; it is a legal contract, not a spiritual one. That is why we are seeking a further change in the law so that same-sex marriages can be celebrated within a couple’s worshipping community. Quakerism is a contemporary and radical faith, which is open to new light, and we strive to discern what the world needs of us.  For us, this means seeking legal recognition for the practice we already recognize.  We don’t seek to impose this on anyone else. For Quakers this is an issue of religious freedom.”

 

 IN THE BLUE CORNER: THE BARONESS

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See her position as wife of a Baron on the chart of heraldry (below)

In the other corner of the ring, is Baroness Butler-Sloss, Britain’s most eminent authority on family law.  She retired as President of the High Court Family Division in 2005.  She told the media that the Prime Minister of Great Britain, David Cameron’s plans to redefine marriage  “went against the principles established for ‘milennia.’    As a judge, Lady Butler-Sloss was a prominent supporter of gay couples adopting children.  She admitted that her reservations were partly religious but were mostly based on her belief that granting gays the status of marriage would destroy the institution of marriage.  She also stated that passing the bill on gay marriage would prove difficult in granting divorce as there would be difficulty in establishing grounds of adultery due to what constitutes same gender sex.

 

In my opinion, the Baroness will lose the fight!  Isn’t it ironic, that those who have the status of marriage and enjoy it, do not feel that gays and lesbians, might feel the same way?

Paula

Interested in titles?   How high in royal society is a Baroness?  I’ve listed the ranks below.

Coronet of an earl
Emperor
Count / Earl
Viscount
Knight / Dame

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