Apr 202016
 
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Rebecca Kadaga – Speaker of the House, Uganda- never married, has no kids, never seen with a man.  Come out of the closet, Rebecca!

Fred Barungi commented on Gay Star News scriptural quote from Paul’s Letter to the Ephesians.  He’s educated, (an analysis) but solely has no idea about the historical background to explain why Paul was addressing comments like “deceitful lusts.”  He feel to judge all homosexuals as operating from  ‘deceitful lusts.”  Firstly, let me say, Fred, that “he who is without sin, cast the first stone.” And secondly, pointing out others sins does not make you holy, but a person going agains the strict commandment of Jesus – “Do not Judge” and “Love your neighbour.” However, I am confused because at the end of Fred’s Quote – he actually sounds like he is following Jesus – ”

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Let all bitterness, and wrath, and anger, and clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you, with all malice:
 And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ’s sake hath forgiven you.

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The Pharisee and Fred.

Pharisees were despised by Jesus because in his words, “they were like tombs that were all shiny on the outside and rotten within.”   Pharisees loved to put down people and used Scriptures to do it.  There are not many times that Jesus says “Woe to you – and when he does, it is to the judging and hateful Pharisee.

Fred may have good intentions.  He may be on a Christian crusade to save souls, but he is on the path of hatred and this is an  UNgod like path.   Am I judging him?  The saying “the way to hell is paved with good intentions” is a dangerous path when it destroys the mind and soul of other people, in this case people born gay.   God will judge Fred.  I am, like him, showing Scripture.   My Scripture, my life is based on John 1: “God is Love.”

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Fred is trying to be a good Christian, but you cannot hate your neighbour (gays and Lesbians) and proclaim that you are following the unconditional love and actions of Jesus. To quote Scripture  – “You cannot serve two masters.”   Fred by supporting Rebecca   Kadaga , the Speaker who viciously enforces laws that put a homosexual in prison for 14 years is also not a follower of Jesus.

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Fred needs to know that he either follows Jesus or Rebecca Kadaga.    This Judge is trying to make life for the LGBT community in Uganda a living hell.   So I wrote two comments on Gay Star News.  The first is to explain Uganda and the Ugandan Martyrs and how they condition the minds of Roman Catholic and Protestant Ugandans.  The second comment is addressed to Fred and his quote of Ephesians.  If you follow Fred on Facebook, he goes against the teachings of Jesus.  He is judging everyone!!   I have also pointed out to him that if he thinks he is “loving the sinner but hating the sin” that this phrase was never used by Jesus.  It is like saying to a person with a face blemish, “I hate the sin of the blemish but love you.!”  What?  What? Surely, there is no comparison between a skin blemish and a homosexual?  Oh, Yes, there is.  In Leviticus 21 – no person with a blemish or a dwarf or a crippled person can enter the sanctuary.  But, what if they were born with a skin blemish, or born a cripple?  Too bad.   This is the same with a homosexual.  According to the World Psychiatrical Association (representing 120 countries) homosexuality since it cannot be reversed is NOT a choice – as is having blemishes or being born a cripple.

FIRST OF MY COMMENTS REGARDING REBECCA (I Should not have called her a bitch, this was a typo – but it was meant to be witch – as witches put curses on innocent people).

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Rebecca meet Pope Benedict

Rebec-the-bitch (meant to say witch) needs to know that the World Psychiatric Association (WPA) that consists of 120 nations, issued a declaration in March, 2016. In that declaration, they stated what educated people know – that homosexuality cannot be reversed/changed – hence, it is NOT a choice. This declaration from the WPA was addressed to the United Nations and to world leaders. However, in my opinion, Rebecca the unjust Judge and Speaker of the House, cannot let her ego and malicious hatred accept the findings of WPA. People like her like to go back 3,500 years ago to Leviticus, when starting a fire was done by rubbing two flints/sticks together so that they could cook a meal and retire to bedouin tents or caves. Honestly, would Rebecca go to a medical doctor who practised medicine from 3,500 years ago?? How Rebecca can look at the scales of justice and know that gays/lesbians can and do face 14 years in prisonment is beyond human comprehension. She is Anglican and met the Pope when he visited Uganda. There is another problem with Christian Ugandans – and that is the “Ugandan Martyrs.” These are recognized by the Roman Catholic and Protestant churches.

Ugandan martyrs now made saints

Ugandan martyrs now made saints


I don’t know the date off hand, but in the 1800s the Christians came to push and shove their beliefs on the native Ugandans. The King was a gay man and like any king, he demanded sex from his subjects. Now, in the case of Christian Kings, they had mistresses and anyone who refused could and was put to death. That was the king’s right. Now with the Ugandan king, the fact that his required sex was gay became problematic for the Christians. They told the young pages in the court of the king that it was sinful and they would go to hell. Many of the pages refused and were killed. They were also killed not only for refusing sex to the monarch, but because they had insulted the king by refusing to accept HIS religion – they were traitors. However, the Roman Catholic Church and the Protestant Churches have made martyrs of them. The RC church has since made them saints. This complicates matters for the LGBT community because in schools and in churches and all around Uganda are statues and painting of these saints who refused gay sex! What is missing is a perpective gays against the background of Ugandan history. Ugandans need to see this problem and realize that they will never be “saints” if they refuse to give gays HUMAN RIGHTS.

SECOND COMMENT IS IN RESPONSE TO FRED’S SCRIPTURAL QUOTE
Dear Fred:
from your title it appears that you have an education, but in terms of the Scriptures, you need some enlightenment.
As a Christian lesbian, I follow the words of Jesus (and Paul comes in second place). Jesus gave us the Parable/Story of the Good Samaritan. If you read it – you must ask the question, why did Jesus put the “most hated, the most sinful, most unclean” person (the Samaritan) as the hero over the priest and Levite that walked by the injured man. It is clear that they “knew” or thought they knew the Scriptures but for some reason, they “judged” the injured man unworthy of help. They had no love in their hearts. The story is a result of a lawyer asking Jesus how to get into the kingdom – and Jesus pointing out that the Samaritan was his neighbor (a shock to the lawyer). Fred, the gay person is YOUR neighbor and because he is gay, he should not be put in prison. (Please refer to a comment I made above about the World Psychiatric Association’s declaration in March 206 to world leaders).
NOW TO PAUL and your quote from Ephesians.
Please note that Paul never met Jesus and therefore was not in his company for three years to see how he loved EVERYONE (Paul encountered Jesus in a vision on the Road to Damascus – and it is very fitting that Jesus said, “Saul, Saul (Paul’s Jewish name) why are you persecuting ME? referring to Christians.)  So why are homosexuals being persecuted today?
. Secondly, Fred, Paul had a mission to the pagans/gentiles. The Corithians and Ephesians were pagan temple worshipers.  Paul’s major job was to convert them to ONE God and to get them away from the sin of Idolatry.  Paul’s also uses sexual comments that refer to lust and unnatural sex – and this is where a person reading these words needs to understand them in an historical context.
Historical Context of Paul’s Writings:
The gods and goddesses in these temples were thought to give blessings/good luck to people who had sexual orgies or every kind – the more the merrier and the more varied the better. This information can easily be obtained on the internet. “Deceitful lusts” are part of Paul’s concern. To have this kind of sexual orgy with both sexes and to have it with children/slaves etc was truly “deceitful lust.” When Paul speaks about women going against their nature – this clearly refers to temple orgies. Since the majority of participants in temple orgies were heterosexual (given the numbers) – for a heterosexual woan to have sex with many men was “deceitful lust” and for her to have sex with another woman was to go against her nature. You see, Fred, as a learned person you should know that any happening should be seen in its historical context. Why was Paul saying these things and who was his intended audience.
The Gospel Writers (Like Paul) Write to a Particular Audience
If you look at the Gospel writers, Matthew writes to Jews about Christ and gives them them the facts that they still have a Jewish Old Testament background. Mark writes many accounts of Jesus’ sufferings and this was to Christians who werebeing persecuted particularly in Rome. Luke is a social gospel and gives dignity to women, outcasts, lepers, etc. John uses symbolism – Bread of Life; Lamb of God.
The World Psychiatric Association’s Declaration of March, 2016
Below is part of their declaration.   You can read it on at….

http://www.wpanet.org/detail.php?section_id=7&content_id=1807

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  1. The World Psychiatric Association (WPA) holds the view that lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender individuals are and should be regarded as valued members of society, who have exactly the same rights and responsibilities as all other citizens. This includes equal access to healthcare and the rights and responsibilities that go along with living in a civilised society.
  2. WPA recognises the universality of same-sex expression, across cultures. It holds the position that a same-sex sexual orientation per se does not imply objective psychological dysfunction or impairment in judgement, stability, or vocational capabilities.
  3. WPA considers same-sex attraction, orientation, and behaviour as normal variants of human sexuality. It recognises the multi-factorial causation of human sexuality, orientation, behaviour, and lifestyle. It acknowledges the lack of scientific efficacy of treatments that attempt to change sexual orientation and highlights the harm and adverse effects of such “therapies”.
  4. WPA acknowledges the social stigma and consequent discrimination of people with same-sex sexual orientation and transgender gender identity. It recognises that the difficulties they face are a significant cause of their distress and calls for the provision of adequate mental health support.
  5. WPA supports the need to de-criminalise same–sex sexual orientation and behaviour and transgender gender identity, and to recognise LGBT rights to include human, civil, and political rights. It also supports anti-bullying legislation; anti-discrimination student, employment, and housing laws; immigration equality; equal age of consent laws; and hate crime laws providing enhanced criminal penalties for prejudice-motivated violence against LGBT people.

6) WPA emphasises the need for research on and the development of evidence-based medical and social interventions that support the mental health of lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender individuals

Summing it up: for Fred.

Advice for Fred"

Advice for Fred”

Jesus love all. He told us "Love one another as I have loved you." - and- "Do not judge."

Jesus love all. He told us “Love one another as I have loved you.” – and- “Do not judge.”

What is so shocking is that an educated man like you – really doesn’t understand the Scriptures. If you did, you would not judge and you would know who your neighbour is. To state that you love the sinner but not the sin, is a rejection of a homosexual person who is true to his or her nature and it is like saying, “I hate your freckles” (sin) but love you. And, yes freckles is an abomination in Deuteronomy/Leviticus – God would now allow in his sanctury any human blemishes: no dwarfs, no blind people, no cripples, no skin blemishes….go read and find this out.

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Who will love the gay child?  Who will judge the straight parents who gave birth to a gay child.?
Given the fact that Psychiatrists world-wide state that homosexuality is NOT a choice why would people persecute gays?  Jesus is in the gay person – it’s scriptural and gays are God’s creation, too.   Jesus states to his disciples that they failed to notice him in the poor, the homeless, the widow, the leper – and he could have said the homosexual.  Who will love the father and the mother of the gay child?  Who will listen to the mother weep for her homosexual child who is jailed by the injustice of Rebecca Kadaga and other “Christian Ugandans.”  And Rebecca may hold the reigns of power as a judge, but there is a MIGHTY judge waiting to judge her and her like.   Fred, there is a chance for you to redeem yourself.  Please read the Scriptures – but particularly the words of Jesus and read them in their historical content.   God’s blessings to you and to all who live in Uganda, especially those who suffer injustice.

  9 Responses to “Fred Barungi: Ugandan – Homophobia Through Scripture”

  1. THAT IS REAL MADNESS.
    THIS IS WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS ABOUT YOUR STUPID ACT OF HOMOSEXUALITY.
    ROMANS 1:20-28
    20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse. 21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles. 24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25 They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen. 26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error. 28 Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done.

    • Hi Fred: It is interesting that you choose to quote Paul. He was writing to the Greeks/Romans who had converted to Christianity. This was at a time when temple prostitution was in full swing. It was believed that the goddess blessed those who had the most sex in the greatest of variety of acts. Paul is writing about those who engaged in such orgies and went against “their natures” and committed lustful acts. Since the majority of orgies would have been performed by heterosexuals, these persons when having same sex – would be going against their nature and would be solely engaged in lustful acts. Homosexuals do not go against their nature. Now with same-sex marriage, couples who have been together for many years can commit to one another. Paul’s main concern was 1) that temple pagan prostitution went agains the first commandment “there is ONE God.” 2) To stop these lustful and unnatural orgies of mainly heterosexuals having same sex. You will agree that 1:10 of the population yesterday and today are homosexuals. Paul did not have the scientific knowledge of today that I will quote for you.
      In March 2016, the World Psychiatric Association, (WPA) consisting of 179 nations, declared to the United Nations and world leaders that homosexuality cannot be reversed and therefore is NOT a choice. This is more relevant than quoting Paul and at the same time judging others. We do not hear the outcry that Trump has three wives and has had many “lustful” affairs. You need to read scripture in its historical context. For example, Genesis has one man and many wives. This was a cultural thing. Thanks for writing.

      • I have a serious problem with you, sorry to say so. the scripture i quoted was talking about unnatural relations. The very first reason God created sex was to fulfill his purpose of producing and filling the world.(post creation). Post creation goes with intercourse between man and woman, not woman and woman or man and man. Secondly was enjoyment or pleasure between male and female. you have decided to exchange unnatural relations for the natural ones, this is a warning that you may bring judgement upon yourself and the next generations after you just like it was in Sodom and Gomorrah. The UN you are trying to talk about has an agenda of destroying morals beginning from grass-root(children) and the later to the adults.
        I do condemn having multiple sexual partners like the trump issue you spoke about, homosexuality too i do condemn it.
        The bible says that the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ. Therefore GET SAVED OR ELSE YOU MAY DIE IN THAT SIN OF HOMOSEXUALITY. Let me give you an assurance that the god you are pledging allegiance to is an evil one-THE DEVIL.

        • F.I have a serious problem with you, sorry to say so. the scripture i quoted was talking about unnatural relations.
          P.I have a problem with people like you that use the Bible to ‘stone’ others. John 1: God is love. All the Gospels: “Love one another.” it does not say pick and choose who to love.
          F. The scripture i quoted was talking about unnatural relations.
          P. When Paul speaks about ‘unnatural relations” in his letters, he is admonishing new Christians to stay away from pagan Temple orgies. The goddess would bless the ‘more the merrier’ indulges in sex – which is lust and no way resembles love or commitment to another human. Since the participants in these orgies would be 99 per cent straight – if they went with a same sex person – that would be ‘unnatural’ to their born natures.
          F. The very first reason God created sex was to fulfill his purpose of producing and filling the world.(post creation). Post creation goes with intercourse between man and woman, not woman and woman or man and man. Secondly was enjoyment or pleasure between male and female. you have decided to exchange unnatural relations for the natural ones, this is a warning that you may bring judgement upon yourself and the next generations after you just like it was in Sodom and Gomorrah.
          P. I do not follow a hateful God like you. I was created by God as a homosexual. I love my God and He/She delights in me. Naturally, we need to have straight couples to bring new persons into the world. My parents were straight. I agree that sexual acts are enjoyable. However, you miss the point of BONDING. Straights and gays do not have sex 24/7. What fills the life of solid loving relationships is the ‘ordinary’ ways that couples bond: shopping, planning holidays, a hug when things have gone wrong, commitment and sharing a life of values. Yes, we have morals and values – only you refer to writing that was written 3,500 years ago when making a fire was done with rubbing two sticks together. God has given humans new ideas and inventions – cures for cancer, open heart surgery, flying in planes and psychiatrists who state clearly that homosexuality cannot be changed and is therefore NOT a choice.
          I suggest you read the Book of Daniel regarding Sodom and Gomorrah, where he states the cities were destroyed because the people were not helping the poor, supporting widows and were haughty in their ungodliness.
          F. The UN you are trying to talk about has an agenda of destroying morals beginning from grass-root(children) and the later to the adults.
          I do condemn having multiple sexual partners like the trump issue you spoke about, homosexuality too i do condemn it.
          P. Sorry, Fred but the U.N was set up to support human rights (amongst other things). Thanks to the import of “Christianity” and its usage of a 3,500 year old text, homosexuals are imprisoned, beaten and murdered. This is not the way of Jesus. Just take out “Samaritan” and substitute “Gays” to learn what Jesus had to say to the lawyer about judging someone (Samaritan) as unclean, ungodly, etc. And may I remind you, that two religious leaders (with the ability to quote scripture walked by the injured man). Jesus in the Parable is saying that He will judge the heart. And you, Fred, have no right to judge the hearts of anyone on this planet. We have a judicial system for arresting incest perpetrators and pedophiles. Homosexuality is not a crime. It has been around since the Dawn of civilisation and in every country. May I inform you that Sally Ride was a lesbian who commanded a NASA space shuttle. NASA did not cast her out because of her sexual orientation.
          F. The bible says that the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ. Therefore GET SAVED OR ELSE YOU MAY DIE IN THAT SIN OF HOMOSEXUALITY. Let me give you an assurance that the god you are pledging allegiance to is an evil one-THE DEVIL.
          P. St. Paul says the “wages of sin” is death – but, God can only judge the ‘sin.’ I knew when I was about 9 years old that I was attracted to women. I didn’t have a name for it. And in Genesis, God states that man (humans) should not be alone. Would you have me lock myself up in my room and never enjoy a kiss. hug and the feel of my loved one’s body beside me? You have no right to judge me or anyone else. Jesus warned, “Judge NOT or you will be judged!” I do not have a sin of homosexuality, I live my life in loving God, neighbour and loving myself. Jesus said you cannot serve two masters, You have set yourself up as Judge in defiance of the words of Jesus. Therefore, Fred, if you are not following Jesus – then you must be following the Angel of Death/Hate – Satan.

        • Hello:
          F.I have a serious problem with you, sorry to say so. the scripture i quoted was talking about unnatural relations.
          P.I have a problem with people like you that use the Bible to ‘stone’ others. John 1: God is love. All the Gospels: “Love one another.” it does not say pick and choose who to love.
          F. The scripture i quoted was talking about unnatural relations.
          P. When Paul speaks about ‘unnatural relations” in his letters, he is admonishing new Christians to stay away from pagan Temple orgies. The goddess would bless the ‘more the merrier’ indulges in sex – which is lust and no way resembles love or commitment to another human. Since the participants in these orgies would be 99 per cent straight – if they went with a same sex person – that would be ‘unnatural’ to their born natures.
          F. The very first reason God created sex was to fulfill his purpose of producing and filling the world.(post creation). Post creation goes with intercourse between man and woman, not woman and woman or man and man. Secondly was enjoyment or pleasure between male and female. you have decided to exchange unnatural relations for the natural ones, this is a warning that you may bring judgement upon yourself and the next generations after you just like it was in Sodom and Gomorrah.
          P. I do not follow a hateful God like you. I was created by God as a homosexual. I love my God and He/She delights in me. Naturally, we need to have straight couples to bring new persons into the world. My parents were straight. I agree that sexual acts are enjoyable. However, you miss the point of BONDING. Straights and gays do not have sex 24/7. What fills the life of solid loving relationships is the ‘ordinary’ ways that couples bond: shopping, planning holidays, a hug when things have gone wrong, commitment and sharing a life of values. Yes, we have morals and values – only you refer to writing that was written 3,500 years ago when making a fire was done with rubbing two sticks together. God has given humans new ideas and inventions – cures for cancer, open heart surgery, flying in planes and psychiatrists who state clearly that homosexuality cannot be changed and is therefore NOT a choice.
          I suggest you read the Book of Daniel regarding Sodom and Gomorrah, where he states the cities were destroyed because the people were not helping the poor, supporting widows and were haughty in their ungodliness.
          F. The UN you are trying to talk about has an agenda of destroying morals beginning from grass-root(children) and the later to the adults.
          I do condemn having multiple sexual partners like the trump issue you spoke about, homosexuality too i do condemn it.
          P. Sorry, Fred but the U.N was set up to support human rights (amongst other things). Thanks to the import of “Christianity” and its usage of a 3,500 year old text, homosexuals are imprisoned, beaten and murdered. This is not the way of Jesus. Just take out “Samaritan” and substitute “Gays” to learn what Jesus had to say to the lawyer about judging someone (Samaritan) as unclean, ungodly, etc. And may I remind you, that two religious leaders (with the ability to quote scripture walked by the injured man). Jesus in the Parable is saying that He will judge the heart. And you, Fred, have no right to judge the hearts of anyone on this planet. We have a judicial system for arresting incest perpetrators and pedophiles. Homosexuality is not a crime. It has been around since the Dawn of civilisation and in every country. May I inform you that Sally Ride was a lesbian who commanded a NASA space shuttle. NASA did not cast her out because of her sexual orientation.
          F. The bible says that the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ. Therefore GET SAVED OR ELSE YOU MAY DIE IN THAT SIN OF HOMOSEXUALITY. Let me give you an assurance that the god you are pledging allegiance to is an evil one-THE DEVIL.
          P. St. Paul says the “wages of sin” is death – but, God can only judge the ‘sin.’ I knew when I was about 9 years old that I was attracted to women. I didn’t have a name for it. And in Genesis, God states that man (humans) should not be alone. Would you have me lock myself up in my room and never enjoy a kiss. hug and the feel of my loved one’s body beside me? You have no right to judge me or anyone else. Jesus warned, “Judge NOT or you will be judged!” I do not have a sin of homosexuality, I live my life in loving God, neighbour and loving myself. Jesus said you cannot serve two masters, You have set yourself up as Judge in defiance of the words of Jesus. Therefore, Fred, if you are not following Jesus – then you must be following the Angel of Death/Hate – Satan.

    • “Your STUPID act of homosexuality!” This is pathetic coming from a so-called educated man. It cannot be STUPIDto:
      a) find a partner to commit with for life b) to share love and every day living with that partner c) to go to a career and help humanity: we are doctors, lawyers, surgeons, dentists, inventors, writers, scholars, teachers, lab technicians and yes, a lesbian commanded a NASA space shuttle and was in a commitment relationship with a woman for nearly 30 years.
      You are so narrow-minded that you view the human body as just for recreation. Yes, we need it. However, if I took out a twenty dollar note – you probably would not be able to name me 20 incredible gays or lesbians that have helped the world. We are more than our sexual genitals – we are God’s gift to the world. Homosexuals have the same values: love of family, love of country, honesty, integrity, truth, justice for all, equality – and NOT judging a whole person by their sexual orientation. You are stuck in Leviticus and Paul’s writings. Look at Corinthians and what Paul has to say about love… I remind you that he states that if you do not have love – your are like a clanging bell or symbol. Just an empty sound. God is LOVE – try and emulate him.

      • Let me quote Paul and the essence of unconditional love (for all our fellow humans)
        1 Corinthians 13New International Version (NIV)

        13 If I speak in the tongues[a] of men or of angels, but do not have love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal. 2 If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing. 3 If I give all I possess to the poor and give over my body to hardship that I may boast,[b] but do not have love, I gain nothing.

        4 Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5 It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7 It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.

        8 Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away. 9 For we know in part and we prophesy in part, 10 but when completeness comes, what is in part disappears. 11 When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put the ways of childhood behind me. 12 For now we see only a reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known.

        13 And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.

        • I would like to point out the line

          4 Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5 It does not dishonor others

      • ello:
        F.I have a serious problem with you, sorry to say so. the scripture i quoted was talking about unnatural relations.
        P.I have a problem with people like you that use the Bible to ‘stone’ others. John 1: God is love. All the Gospels: “Love one another.” it does not say pick and choose who to love.
        F. The scripture i quoted was talking about unnatural relations.
        P. When Paul speaks about ‘unnatural relations” in his letters, he is admonishing new Christians to stay away from pagan Temple orgies. The goddess would bless the ‘more the merrier’ indulges in sex – which is lust and no way resembles love or commitment to another human. Since the participants in these orgies would be 99 per cent straight – if they went with a same sex person – that would be ‘unnatural’ to their born natures.
        F. The very first reason God created sex was to fulfill his purpose of producing and filling the world.(post creation). Post creation goes with intercourse between man and woman, not woman and woman or man and man. Secondly was enjoyment or pleasure between male and female. you have decided to exchange unnatural relations for the natural ones, this is a warning that you may bring judgement upon yourself and the next generations after you just like it was in Sodom and Gomorrah.
        P. I do not follow a hateful God like you. I was created by God as a homosexual. I love my God and He/She delights in me. Naturally, we need to have straight couples to bring new persons into the world. My parents were straight. I agree that sexual acts are enjoyable. However, you miss the point of BONDING. Straights and gays do not have sex 24/7. What fills the life of solid loving relationships is the ‘ordinary’ ways that couples bond: shopping, planning holidays, a hug when things have gone wrong, commitment and sharing a life of values. Yes, we have morals and values – only you refer to writing that was written 3,500 years ago when making a fire was done with rubbing two sticks together. God has given humans new ideas and inventions – cures for cancer, open heart surgery, flying in planes and psychiatrists who state clearly that homosexuality cannot be changed and is therefore NOT a choice.
        I suggest you read the Book of Daniel regarding Sodom and Gomorrah, where he states the cities were destroyed because the people were not helping the poor, supporting widows and were haughty in their ungodliness.
        F. The UN you are trying to talk about has an agenda of destroying morals beginning from grass-root(children) and the later to the adults.
        I do condemn having multiple sexual partners like the trump issue you spoke about, homosexuality too i do condemn it.
        P. Sorry, Fred but the U.N was set up to support human rights (amongst other things). Thanks to the import of “Christianity” and its usage of a 3,500 year old text, homosexuals are imprisoned, beaten and murdered. This is not the way of Jesus. Just take out “Samaritan” and substitute “Gays” to learn what Jesus had to say to the lawyer about judging someone (Samaritan) as unclean, ungodly, etc. And may I remind you, that two religious leaders (with the ability to quote scripture walked by the injured man). Jesus in the Parable is saying that He will judge the heart. And you, Fred, have no right to judge the hearts of anyone on this planet. We have a judicial system for arresting incest perpetrators and pedophiles. Homosexuality is not a crime. It has been around since the Dawn of civilisation and in every country. May I inform you that Sally Ride was a lesbian who commanded a NASA space shuttle. NASA did not cast her out because of her sexual orientation.
        F. The bible says that the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ. Therefore GET SAVED OR ELSE YOU MAY DIE IN THAT SIN OF HOMOSEXUALITY. Let me give you an assurance that the god you are pledging allegiance to is an evil one-THE DEVIL.
        P. St. Paul says the “wages of sin” is death – but, God can only judge the ‘sin.’ I knew when I was about 9 years old that I was attracted to women. I didn’t have a name for it. And in Genesis, God states that man (humans) should not be alone. Would you have me lock myself up in my room and never enjoy a kiss. hug and the feel of my loved one’s body beside me? You have no right to judge me or anyone else. Jesus warned, “Judge NOT or you will be judged!” I do not have a sin of homosexuality, I live my life in loving God, neighbour and loving myself. Jesus said you cannot serve two masters, You have set yourself up as Judge in defiance of the words of Jesus. Therefore, Fred, if you are not following Jesus – then you must be following the Angel of Death/Hate – Satan.

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